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Students Deserting The Hoyas?


Monday's lack of student turnout figured prominently into a historic low attendance for a Georgetown Big East home game.

Just 5,369 attended the nationally telecast game, the lowest home attendance for a Georgetown-St. John's game since games were played at 4,200 seat McDonough Gymnasium. Since games were moved off-campus in 1981, only one Big East home game, a January 17, 2006 game with South Florida, drew a smaller crowd.

With the turnout, Georgetown is averaging 8,919 a game this season, with three home games remaining.

Georgetown 92, St. John's 67


A quick start was all Georgetown needed in a 92-67 walkover of St. John's Monday before a poorly attended game of just 5,369 at Verizon Center.

The Georgetown student section resembled a game over the Christmas holidays, with no more than 100 students choosing to show their support to a team which had dropped three of four. To its credit, the team never gave up itself, and sent a message early in this one that it was ready to go.

The Hoyas started strong and nevr let up. A three pointer by D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera opened the scoring and moved DSR past David Wingate for sixth place on the career scoring list. The Hoyas started off six for its first eight, but a remarkable four for four, taking an 18-8 lead in a game they never trailed. Early foul trouble hampered the Redmen, while the hoyas took full advantage of sophomores L.J. Peak and Isaac Copeland, each scoring 14 points in the first half. and combining for 13 of 14 Georgetown points over a five minute stretch of the half that put the Hoyas up 15, 35-20, with 7:18 in the first half. Georgetown led by as many as 20 in the half and carried a 48-32 lead into intermission, shooting 56 percent from the field and 7-12 from three point range. Thanks to some spotty GU defense, the Redmen shot 46 percent from the field but its 2-10 three point shooting was no match for the Hoyas' hot hand.

Two quick fouls in a 34 second run to open the second half sent Bradley Hayes to the bench, but St. John's could not get any closer than 14 as a result. Points from Smith-Rivera, Copeland, Jessie Govan, and Marcus Derrickson pushed the lead back to 20, The St. John's offense struggled in the second half, shooting just 37 percent from the field and missing its share of easy shots and setting up the Hoyas for a 39-27 advantage on rebounds. The redmen picked up only four second chance points all evening, trailing by 25 with 7:32 to play and never challenging thereafter.

Georgetown finished the game shooting 54 percent from the field, 10-22 from three point range, and 18-24 from the free throw line, including 11-12 in the second half. Three different Georgetown players scored 20 or more points, the first time in five years since this was done. D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera led all scorers with 24, followed by 23 from Isaac Copeland and 20 from L.J. Peak. Reggie cameron added 12, while the rest of the team contributed just 13 points. St. John's shot 423 percent for the game but missed on 13 of 17 attempts from three point range.

The comfortable win, a close facsimile to the Hoyas' 93-73 win over the redmen on jan. 13, should be put in its proper context and then put away--St. John's has lost 15 straight and struggles to stay in Big East games this year. Saturday's game at Providence figures to be a much tougher game, and another gut check if the Hoyas are to make any case for a post-season future. For now, however, it's a welcome win.

The Georgetown half of the box score:

            MIN   2FG   3FG   FT  REB  A  PF  PTS
Campbell     15   0-1   0-1   0-0   0   2  1    0
Smith-Rivera 34   3-7   3-6   9-10  2   2  1   24
Copeland     32   6-8   2-3   5-6   8   3  3   23
Derrickson   19   0-1   1-1   0-0   4   1  3    3
Hayes        14   2-3   0-0   0-1   5   1  4    4
Peak         29   7-9   2-5   0-0   6   3  2   20 
Cameron      21   2-3   2-5   2-4   6   3  3   12
Govan        21   1-4   0-1   0-1   3   3  4    2
Williams      1   0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0  0    0
Johnson       9   1-1   0-0   2-2   2   3  3    4
Mourning      5   0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0  1    0
Team Rebounds                       3    
TOTALS          22-37 10-22  18-24 39  21 25   92

Additional press links follows Tuesday.

NCAA Statistics


Three key statistics tell the tale of the 2015-16 Georgetown Hoyas to date.

Following Saturday's game, Georgetown ranks 228th of 346 schools in turnovers per game, 276th in turnovers forced per game, and a woeful 335th in fouls committed per game. That's among the bottom 12 in all Division I--here are the schools with more fouls than Georgetown:

336. Wright St. (22.6)
337. Ark.-Pine Bluff (22.8)
338. Ga. Southern (22.9)
339. Morehead St. (23.0)
340. Bradley (23.0)
341. Detroit (23.5)
342. Lamar (23.5)
343. West Virginia (23.9)
344. NC-Wilmington (24.0)
345. Washington (24.7)
346. The Citadel (24.9)


Here's a look at these statistics in the John Thompson III era.

  Fouls/Game Turnovers/Game Turnovers Forced/Game
2004-05 (NIT) 14.4 13.7 13.1
2005-06 (NCAA) 14.7 11.5 12.0
2006-07 (NCAA) 14.7 13.4 11.0
2007-08 (NCAA) 17.6 13.4 12.5
2008-09 (NIT) 17.7 14.5 14.2
2009-10 (NCAA) 17.0 13.9 13.0
2010-11 (NCAA) 15.0 13.5 11.3
2011-12 (NCAA) 17.5 12.6 12.8
2012-13 (NCAA) 14.8 12.7 14.1
2013-14 (NIT) 22.0 11.7 11.9
2014-15 (NCAA) 20.2 12.5 13.2
2015-16 22.5 13.3 11.7

Seton Hall 69, Georgetown 61

Updated 2/7/16

On Thursday, coach John Thompson III warned that "time is running out" on the Hoyas' chances for an NCAA bid. After Saturday's 69-61 loss at Seton Hall, let's state the obvious: time is out.

Both teams struggled early in this game. Georgetown opened the game 4 for 12 from the field, Seton Hall 3 for 12. Early foul trouble, a staple of Georgetown games this season, opened the door for substitutions, but it was the addition of sophomore L.J. Peak that provided an early boost to the Hoyas' efforts. Peak, an inconsistent threat from outside, caught fire midway in the first half: a three at the 12:30 mark, followed by consecutive threes at the midway point of the half to give Georgetown a 21-17 lead with 9:50 to halftime. Peak's shooting tailed off thereafter, finishing 2 for 9, but it provided a much needed spark for a Georgetown team shooting 30 percent in the game.

A basket from D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera and free throws by Jessie Govan gave georgetown a 25-19 lead with under eight minutes to the break, but, like clockwork, the Hoyas again faded down the stretch. The Hoyas scored only one basket for the remainder of the first half as the Pirates, who had shooting problems of its own, finished with a 3 for 11 effort that gave them a 30-29 lead at the break. Georgetown missed its final six shots of the period and ended the first half 9 for 30 from the field, and 4 for 12 from there point range -- put another way, Peak was 3 for 4, the rest of the team was 1-8.

Georgetown continued its cold shooting ways to open the second half, missing five of its first six. As both team struggled at the basket, Georgetown took a 38-36 lead with 15;38 to play, but the Hall doubled-down on rebounding and began to build a lead. Picking up offensive rebounds on thee of its next four possessions, the Pirates went to work inside, with baskets by Khadeen Carrington and Angel Delgado gave the homestanding Pirates its largest lead of the game, 43-38, with 12:52 to play. By the midway point of the second half, Georgetown had three field goals, four turnovers, and seven fouls.

The Hoyas trailed by as many as seven, 48-41, before an unexpected boost followed from sophomore Isaac Copeland, who turned in a strong effort down the stretch. Copeland scored nine straight to close the deficit to two, 54-52, at the 5:44 mark. The teams traded baskets into the 4:00 mark when Seton hall's Isaiah Whitehead, fighting through a horrid run of 12 straight misses in the game, hit a three pointer to put the Pirates up five, 57-52, with 3:44 to play. The Hoyas responded with turnovers on its next two possessions, and the Hall never looked back.

Isaac Copeland and L.J. Peak led the Hoyas with a combined 35 points, accounting for 11 of the team's 19 field goals. The sophomores were a combined 6 for 10 from three point range, the remainder of the team combined for 0 for 10. The team had 30 fouls against 19 field goals.

Angel Delgado led the Pirates with 19 points and 13 rebounds. Whitehead, the team's leading scorer, finished 3 for 15 but his late three proved the turning point of the game. along with four assists.

"I think the light bulb has gone off with [Whitehead] and he realizes that he's a pretty good passer," Georgetown coach John Thompson III said in post-game remarks. "They are so much harder to guard because he's distributing the ball, and he's always going to be an offensive threat."

The loss, a function of 33 percent shooting and continuing late game misfires (two field goals in the final 5:04) marked Georgetown's third straight loss and fourth in its last five for a team with no momentum entering the last seven games of the conference race. Thirty fouls and 15 turnovers, the latter accounting for 12 Seton Hall points, again proved Georgetown's undoing. And with continued problem in these areas, more late game setbacks await.

Here's the Georgetown half of the box score:

            MIN   2FG   3FG   FT  REB  A  PF  PTS
Campbell          0-2   0-1   0-0   1   1  2    0
Smith-Rivera      4-5   0-5   3-4   6   4  3   11
Copeland          3-7   3-5   3-4   9   0  4   18
Derrickson        1-2   0-1   2-2   6   1  5    4
Hayes             2-8   0-0   1-2   6   2  5    5
Peak              2-7   3-5   4-7   8   0  3   17 
Cameron           0-1   0-1   0-0   2   0  1    0
Govan             1-3   0-2   4-6   3   1  4    6
Williams          0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0  1    0
Johnson           0-0   0-0   0-0   0   0  1    0
Mourning          0-1   0-0   0-0   1   0  1    0
Team Rebounds                       6    
TOTALS          13-36  6-20  17-25 46   9 30   61

Additional coverage follows below. The Washington dailies apparently did not send reporters to cover the game.

Post-Game Reactions

2/5/16 On Hoyas: "Primed To Miss" NCAA's


An article at notes ten teams with something to prove in February for the post-season. At #3, Georgetown:

"This talented bunch seems primed to miss the NCAA tournament altogether, with its 10 losses including some stinkers against Radford (189th in KenPom) and UNC-Asheville (135th in KenPom). Yet plenty of its losses have been close ones to good teams: Maryland, Duke, Villanova, Providence. The Hoyas have a long way to go in the regular season and in the Big East tournament if they want to prove they belong. But their talent absolutely belongs. It's just the results that don't so far."

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